Replacing existing bench seats with articulating (Cessna) seats.

[Barry Dechert]

In my past research I was sure I was able to find the STC for modification of Helio Courier bench seats and replacing them with articulating seats. I am looking for a little guidance to locate information on the subject. Any help is appreciated. Thanks, Barry.

[Ray Dorsey]

JAAR,s had an stc for cessna seats There is a 395 that i work on, that used to have 337 seats . They were replaced due the the cessna AD. The seats just do not set at comfortable angle in the Helio. The seat backs broke frequently, other repairs. cessna seats are overpriced Junk . Installed Helio 1400 seats
Better seats and comfortable.
I,m looking for a pair for a 391B.

[Gerald Jordan]

I have 4 Cessna 206 seats in my 391b.
They seem to be OK but the front seats fit together a little snug. They move freely though.
I am in Mexico until Christmas so I can't look at the info for them.

I have found this though.

STC Number:
SA1390SO

This certificate issued to:
Jungle Aviation & Radio Service, Inc.

STC Holder's Address:
P.O. Box 248
Waxhaw NC 28173
United States

Description of the Type Design Change:
Installation of crew seats, folding passenger seats and rear passenger seats.

Application Date:
Status:
Amended, 09/20/1983
Responsible Office:
ACE-115A Atlanta Aircraft Certification Office Tel: [phone]

TC Number -- Make -- Model:
1A8 -- Alliance Aircraft Group, LLC -- H-295 (USAF U-10D)
1A8 -- Alliance Aircraft Group, LLC -- H-391 (USAF YL-24)
1A8 -- Alliance Aircraft Group, LLC -- H-395 (USAF L-28A or U-10B)
1A8 -- Alliance Aircraft Group, LLC -- H-250

STC Number:
SA916SO
This certificate issued to:
Jungle Aviation & Radio Service, Inc.
STC Holder's Address:
P.O. Box 248
Waxhaw NC 28173
United States
Description of the Type Design Change:
Installation of Cessna seat rails and seats.
Application Date:
Status:
Issued, 01/13/1977
Responsible Office:
ACE-115A Atlanta Aircraft Certification Office Tel: [phone]
TC Number -- Make -- Model:
1A8 -- Alliance Aircraft Group, LLC -- H-250
1A8 -- Alliance Aircraft Group, LLC -- H-395 (USAF L-28A or U-10B)
1A8 -- Alliance Aircraft Group, LLC -- H-295 (USAF U-10D)
1A8 -- Alliance Aircraft Group, LLC -- H-391B

Gerry

[Barry Dechert]

Thanks for the information Gerry, I believe JAARS also fabricated their own seat assemblies I have seen them when they where at Airshows. I will give them a call and pick their brain about this a little more. The comment Ray Dorsey sent seems to make sense about the proper angle for comfort. I know all about Cessna seats and the issues they have. Something similar where the seats are more user friendly to adjust. I'll keep researching and networking. I welcome further comments.

[Barry Dechert]

Ray Dorsey said:

JAAR,s had an stc for cessna seats There is a 395 that i work on, that used to have 337 seats . They were replaced due the the cessna AD. The seats just do not set at comfortable angle in the Helio. The seat backs broke frequently, other repairs. cessna seats are overpriced Junk . Installed Helio 1400 seats
Better seats and comfortable.
I,m looking for a pair for a 391B.

[Barry Dechert]

Yes Ray I agree Cessna seats have their issues I was very curious how the seat tracks where attached for the proper angle. I welcome and further comments on the subject. The 1400 series seats would be nice if available. I still have the original bench seats I am not without any seats. But I would like to find a better option eventually if their is one. Thanks for your comment.

[Eric Eriksen]

I wonder the Atlee Dodge Jump seats used in cessna's are an option.

Barry Dechert said:

Yes Ray I agree Cessna seats have their issues I was very curious how the seat tracks where attached for the proper angle. I welcome and further comments on the subject. The 1400 series seats would be nice if available. I still have the original bench seats I am not without any seats. But I would like to find a better option eventually if their is one. Thanks for your comment.

[john alleva]

I like the bench. Not many aircraft with a bench seat in it, very unique. It fits me well. I can see if you are needing to haul a bunch of freight and want passenger seat to remove for max CG. I plan on leaving the rear bench out of mine and if some one want a ride they can sit on a lawn chair or beer cooler.